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claphamsa
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Opt outs
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December 15, 2016, 06:20:32 AM »
how often do people opt out?
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Coop
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December 15, 2016, 07:41:39 AM »
I've only had one experience with this, and it wasn't good. My first season as a GM, my #2 starting pitcher, Dalmr Mazi, was a 3-star guy who had a good year and was under contract for another year at $5.5 million. He had an opt-out clause, but I figured he'd stay since he was making quite a decent salary for a 3-star performer. However, he chose to opt out (which was actually a dumb decision on his part since he ended up getting less than $5.5 million as a free agent).
I've got another key player with an opt-out clause at the end of this season, and I'd like to come up with a way to keep him, but I offered him a contract extension and he said he didn't want to talk about it until the end of the year. Which sounds like a "see you later" to me, though I certainly hope it isn't. I'd be curious to know what factors OOTP uses in order to determine how likely a player is to leave when he has an opt-out clause.
I'm also making sure that all future contracts I offer do NOT have an opt-out clause. It's hard enough to build a team without adding this extra layer of uncertainty.
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claphamsa
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December 15, 2016, 08:43:30 AM »
yeah, its not a see you later, its a league settings dont let us negotiate contracts until the last year.
Ekstein has an opt out...but i would rather pay him his 28M
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Claybor
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December 15, 2016, 09:05:43 AM »
I have not and will never use the opt out clause.
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claphamsa
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December 15, 2016, 04:00:25 PM »
did we discuss removing the option?
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Coop
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December 15, 2016, 06:49:29 PM »
I would be in favor of that. Opt-outs don't add any enjoyment to the game; they're a nuisance, really.
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Txhorns
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December 15, 2016, 08:57:51 PM »
I do think we agreed to remove the option. There are still probably some contracts with the options in them though.
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Coop
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December 16, 2016, 05:32:57 PM »
Can we get rid of them?
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sumhzrd
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December 17, 2016, 06:43:18 AM »
We have not gotten rid of option years, to the best of my knowledge. The constitution still includes an amendment that stipulates that club-offered option years must include a buyout clause of 25% or more.
I would not be in favor of an amendment to eliminate them. If you find them to be a nuisance, don't offer them, as some owners have indicated. But they are a typical part of contracts in professional baseball, which we are simulating.
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squaredrive
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December 21, 2016, 02:01:09 PM »
I agree that there is no need to eliminate them but their game utilization seems slightly flawed to me. Opt-outs are generally something a player would want in negotiation for a smaller value on overall contract terms. Not sure how the engine works or whether players accept less money due to inclusion of opt-out but I've never seen a player request this in the game so there is really no incentive to use it. As a GM there is no apparent upside.
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